Krosos

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MD inside VaM? That would probably be great, but I'm afraid to imagine what kind of computer would be needed then. Also, now my VaM folder is over 120GB, how much will it be in the future? I'm already afraid of this future)))
Think about not needing any artist you want some cloth you scan it take some photos and boom the basic design is done with basic simulation but it wont be perfect some fine tuning still needed but the time will be so heavily reduced for most tasks or you want some fantasy cloth you select some params and you get some instantly randomly designed unique ones ;)

The Future will be Amazing Procedural Creation is at it's high peak in times of Machine Learning and will become crazy efficient :D
 
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ohnoeee

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Do you need to buy a Pateron tier in order to get an updated version of the game? I have an old pirated version and I don't think I can access whatever the store they have. I also have gigs of files on the game but can't really figure out how to properly implement them. First things first though. I feel like I can't get the game itself to work as it should, how can I properly get the game itself? Is the one here proper for accessing the store they have?
 
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ShadowLad

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Do you need to buy a Pateron tier in order to get an updated version of the game? I have an old pirated version and I don't think I can access whatever the store they have. I also have gigs of files on the game but can't really figure out how to properly implement them. First things first though. I feel like I can't get the game itself to work as it should, how can I properly get the game itself? Is the one here proper for accessing the store they have?
All you need is the Keys, you can update your pirated game to 1.20 and then just input something like...

C28571
E25714
T11637
 

ohnoeee

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Ah ok. So does this function ok with Index? The one I had already felt glitchy and slow when I use it.
"Vive or Rift with Touch Controllers required"
Also, how do you update it? I have the updater, but when I replace it in the install folder and open it, it just gives me an error
 
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lednaruto

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but in the end what is the use of having the plugin enabled for Faster VaM? because I activated it but I didn't load the mods that or installed I only loaded the vanilla game, so what's the use of using Faster VaM, if in the end it doesn't load anything new?
 

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Here it is let the results rolling :)

A not so boring benchmark with closer to most usecases results :)



Cant wait to see a full Porn Bench Scene with some more movement physic and camera action yes the Porn 3DMark is coming :D
 
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I don't know if I can request an asset without having any link as I can't find any so fuck it I'm gonna ask here.

Does anyone has a DoA Marie Rose character?
 

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updated and current as of 2021-10-15 release.

Some of these I hadn't seen before in it's entirety like Boobie Beach Bounce remastered requires boat and tree assets downable off patreon sites. On mega Sort by Date for changed files they will be dated October.
 

Krosos

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Trying to select body parts to put back in place is nigh impossible and then actually putting them back in place is literally impossible.
Yep the Gizmo Drag System was a big mistake since release, 2.0 might finally correct it.
The Pin System seems the right way to go and make it much much more intuitive and stable to handle (similar to DAZ3D part selection) with lowering task times for more complex posing and bone body part alignment tasks further with less hair loss on the way.

Though impossible is wrong but it sometimes needs very hard nerves especially in Desktop 2D to figure 3D Space depth and camera location and where the control point might suddenly has gone, in the case you lost it you would just turn it off and on again ;)

Still they are more worse control systems and implementations around for 2D/3D ;) "Captain Hardcore" :D
And some interesting ideas how to easy it further out and make it more error robust as well click/snap/drag with keyboard controls working in depth movement mode not camera for simple location object placement "Holodexxx"

Though this is the good thing virtually everyone can contribute his ideas and change many parts of this and some actually do it on top of VAM as we speak and try new ideas which then might become the further direction of VAM depending on it's overall system changes required.

Same for the way you criticize the UI they are easier to learn solutions by 3rd Parties already for the top of VAM and the UI's logic is overall not hard to understand if you compare it with something like Unity or Unreals learning curve, it is very much the contrary of hard to learn, even average non techy user will find their way relative fast the growing user numbers and expanding creator counts show it how easy it is to implement many of their Ideas from DCC to Runtime operation.
Though if you are the Type "Hey brother would you please RTFM for me" then VAM will never be for you.

And i fully agree with you VAM is no Game it is a "Experience of another kind" ;)
 
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It did :) but after it it's like seeing the light and all the possibilities :)

and then you try to find your way through and how to combine these possibilities and how to master many of the Realtime tech restrictions in your way and get the best out of it and still be performant as possible and efficient in your task times :)

When i did my first Realtime test back then trying to understand what this VAM is it was a really wild experience and in that time it was even so much more bugged, though some bugs also created crazy nice random results sometimes the next iteration onwards but you had to understand this first, what suddenly changed your results even if it was in a nicer direction.
This was a ongoing process stabilizing VAM and making it much more predictable thus you now have the lock functions that can avoid unexpected changes and random mixes :)

My first test was kinda pure crazy i tried to simulate a complete live show manually and pushing results out as fast as i could ;)



For those interested in the now Performance Metrics in a new System config back then I5-2400 GTX 1080 VAM 1.15 (now Ryzen 7 3700x RTX 3070) and on VAM 1.22 yes the Scene still works without a hitch but its overall low complexity optimzed to reach the 4K 30 FPS goal back then and absolutely fluid input controlls with as low latency impact as possible :)

Which also means Shadows that you mostly see are overall a baked illusion

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Please keep in mind what you see here in those early results might look younger to what you used to see from me this has several reasons lighting is one but they are much more, tough i left this extreme dolls beyond long time ago, for now at least.
They are way enough of them around by now in all kind of cute extremes as well most likely more then actual clones by now ;)

Though we also matured quiet a bit here :)
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Everyone has their own Experiences their own knowledge of complex systems the Adventure is how to make it workout for as many as possible and abstract it to something functioning for as many as possible without taking yourself to much into the spotlight :)

Look at for example the learning curve of DirectorNeoVam on top of VAM itself (Powerfull) but it partly over complexes things so heavily for it's creator it was surely pure logic going that way though ;)

Everyone who really want's to see it just as a Game for his part time enjoyment, go first with either Easymate or VAMx, both are abstracting the System overall complexity further down in a very user friendly way, combining the work of many great minds/souls.

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2.0 will bring all this combined to Next Gen HDR Graphics (moving almost everything entirely to the Unity HDR Pipeline) and even further improved performance by then (though not a generational leap yet, don't expect full simulated body orgies in Realtime under a certain quality output result yet) every Unreal result currently will get real competition against a mega powerfull with full heart blood deved out System (which will never need a Cloud) by a crazy community of nerds that found themselves united under Human Interaction in it's hardest to simulate Realtime form. :)

Next Generation Cum Simulation Results will shortly follow.
 
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Haven420

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*** I am aware that many of these have been posted already ***

I am in the process of gathering ALL available morph .VARs

I will repackage all available morphs into a series of standardized .VARs

This is stage one of a massive project to de-clutter existing scenes, looks, and clothing .VARs and remove all duplicates from within existing .VAR files. This will save around 30% disk space, and drastically reduce all load times as well as reduce RAM usage. It should clear up all dependency issues

This will be a LOT of work, but I am willing to do it. I have already spent a week getting everything started. I have made some really good progress. I just need a little help from the community.

Feel free to message me if you can assist
 

Haven420

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There is that 36 meg morph package that includes all those paid Daz3D morphs like fantasy creatures, etc
Do_Not_Distribute.Import_Reloaded_Full_Addon

Glaring issue even using a huge conglomerate pack is now the user has 50 some pages of morphs to contend to. File size reduction really shouldn't be a concern as they range from 1-30k a pop. While I agree with you the concern of seeing tons of the same morph listed like when Alter3go would rename vamizer each time and that gets out of control. Personally I view these as .ISO images. I backup what I need and never want to deal with broken files ever again. When people get around to decluttering a collection this just leads to a black hole of problems trying to fix upon refix.

and personally again, my route is simply trim down meta.json files to only include the core.json/jpg, and appearance files if relevant to be used among other releases. If VAM is unable to index anything at all through an empty meta.json everything is magically self contained and clutter free without breaking issues.

Best of luck on your project it's going to be a steep climb considering the torrent packs are nearly 1 TB. Less is more, hording and vam is too many problems than it's worth.
On a 1.5 TB install of VaM, I have already seen a reduction in size of over 500 GB. I am not finished yet. Most of what is in every .VAR file is duplicates. I have removed well over 1 million duplicate files from within .VARs already.

One of the major problems with the .VAR system is that it is basically an .ISO system. Try to mount thousands of .ISOs at once and see what happens.

I intend to avoid the "black hole of problems" by manually fixing everything THEN using a script with my fixed reference .VARs instead of just relying on scripts to do all the work. The end user should have a pretty one-click experience, and it should only fix things, not break them.

I appreciate the link. Thank you
 
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Krosos

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High Quality Physics are pretty amazing they correct any force jitter for the most complex collisions and even chains, but man are they expensive.

This should have been part of the Benchmark, with a full power kissing/licking scene.

TIP:
For the lock Pose function if you lock the pose and load a general preset better make sure to also disable any saved pose their if you really want to be sure to get the exact same position, having High Quality Physics enabled while changing complex collision chain poses also can help majorly in keeping the pose result as stable as possible.
Even if the Scale differs it can get overall nice results and some random nice ones as well :)


On a 1.5 TB install of VaM, I have already seen a reduction in size of over 500 GB. I am not finished yet. Most of what is in every .VAR file is duplicates. I have removed well over 1 million duplicate files from within .VARs already.

One of the major problems with the .VAR system is that it is basically an .ISO system. Try to mount thousands of .ISOs at once and see what happens.

I intend to avoid the "black hole of problems" by manually fixing everything THEN using a script with my fixed reference .VARs instead of just relying on scripts to do all the work. The end user should have a pretty one-click experience, and it should only fix things, not break them.

I appreciate the link. Thank you
Honour your effort though it will happen over and over again the VAR System as it is is still to complex to understand for many creators and as such they made blatant errors in beta testing all the cases that could possible go wrong.

Now that you did this you should have a nice list of of creators who never duped and used entirely their own IP and Assets ;)

A nice list of totally unique content creators, you could now further analyze that data going deeper excluding Coder work and such filtering more ;)

Also interesting would be analyzing who had strange dependency leftovers that are on a known blacklist.

Also something like a Top 10 of used Dependencies last time i tried todo that i think reloaded morphs where very high :)

Working with all that data on the Server side surely is total fun, so much possible data analyze points by now :)
 
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